The Unseen Realm with Dawn Daniels

The Unseen Realm with Dawn Daniels

What if science has been pointing to God all along?

In this thought-provoking episode of The Unseen Realm, Pastor Luz Quiñones sits down with Dawn Daniels to explore the fascinating intersection of quantum physics, the Bible, and the unseen spiritual realm. Is there a connection between modern scientific discoveries and what Scripture has declared for thousands of years?

We discuss:

* How quantum physics challenges our understanding of reality.
* Why science and faith don’t have to be enemies.
* The invisible spiritual world described throughout the Bible.
* Why many churches avoid teaching about the supernatural.
* Spiritual discernment, biblical truth, and the unseen battle around us.
* How understanding the unseen realm can strengthen your walk with God.

Whether you’re passionate about apologetics, biblical theology, quantum physics, the supernatural, spiritual warfare, or the relationship between science and Christianity, this conversation will challenge you to think deeper and seek God with fresh eyes.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:00

What if I told you that the most important things in your life are completely unseen? What if I told you that what you see with your eyes is not the whole picture? Does science prove what the Bible tells us about the unseen realm? Let's get into it. I am back with Dawn Daniels. And today we are going to talk about something that I have absolutely no idea, right? Like it's not in my forte, but it is very, very interesting, right? So we are going to talk about quantum physics, right? And so today's uh pod is titled The Unseen Realm. So, Dawn, can you tell us a little bit about what quantum physics is?

SPEAKER_01 0:57

I'm gonna first give a disclaimer. I am not a scientist. Um I'm going to dumb this down as like easy as possible because it there is a lot of technical stuff. So if you are a quantum physicist out there, these obviously I'm not gonna go into the depth of what a scientist would go into. Um but quantum physics is actually the that the the world around us is a it's it's not what we think it is. You know, we think of everything as solid and we see everything and we believe what our eyes see. The quantum physicists have have actually proven that the world is conscious and it's actually it behaves based on what we believe. And we now know that everything that we see around us, we actually create. It's not already there. There is a collective consciousness of the world.

SPEAKER_02 1:47

That's interesting. So that and it again, we tie everything back into the Bible, right? Because the Bible talks about a lot about what you can't see. Yes, right? And so how do you think quantum physics plays into the life of a believer?

SPEAKER_01 2:03

So when I started studying it, and there's a whole reason why I started studying it, but it was it started confirming to me, you know, when when Jesus said, Whatever you ask for, it is done, right? That's quantum physics. Whatever we believe to be true, we create, we draw to us. Whatever you do to others, right, be you know, do to others bec will be done to you. When we people, a lot of people in the world call that karma. Well, Jesus said it first, right? Well, that is quantum physics because the energy that you put out is literally a boomerang that comes back. And so him telling you when you bless others, you will be blessed tenfold. And so the more that you bless, the more that comes back. That um the unseen God says, do not have faith in what you see, right? Be know that whatever you've asked for, I'm already there. I'm in the details, it's already done. But your mind has to stay right. And so when when you start looking into quantum physics, you begin to realize that every word you speak, you create and draw to you. And so that's for the negative as well. And so what I ultimately tell people is when I look at like even the Ten Commandments, like you do realize that those weren't like this harsh God saying, Oh, you must do these things. I said, He was protecting you from you, right? Because when he said, Thou shalt not kill, because if you do, one, there's consequences of your action. Two, you're creating something that's going to come back into your life in many different ways. When you lie, you're not trustworthy. No one's gonna trust you. You're not gonna be able to go out and and and have a life where no one wants to be around you. Do not covet thy neighbor's wife. Why? Because somebody's gonna kill you. You know what I mean? So it was you protecting you from your own behaviors, and then if you go into the quantum field, the more the the more evil and terrible things that you do becomes the world that you live in. Right? You've and we still people will I they blame God, and it's like, uh, but you can't. Right. You created what you live in. You created the bed that you lie in.

SPEAKER_02 4:06

Right. And that's with everything, right? Like I say we have free will. We we decide, we choose. You choose the life that you want to live, you choose the mindset that you want to have that morning, or whatever the case is, right? We have a choice when it comes to anything. So why do you think people are so fascinated by things that they can't see? Um, some people it's God, right, or the spiritual, and some people it's more dark, right? So uh dark matter and things like that. I I I'm curious to know your thoughts on why people gravitate to these things.

SPEAKER_01 4:41

I think that when we when you become a Christian, it's God's will, not mine. And that's hard. That's a hard thing to live by, right? Because, you know, we everything in our life is about us. Every even our bodies are made to make sure that we survive. Right. And so it almost goes against what the flesh wants us to live like. And so when I'm going to God, that means I'm surrendering to him. Lord, I don't know what's happening here, but I'm giving it to you, and I'm trusting that you're gonna work this out. I think in the dark realm, it gives people the feeling of power and that they can control things that are happening around them, and and Satan will allow you to a certain degree until he he wants something of his, right? And so I think that people keep waking up and keep going and the influence of the world too, which is you know, if I look like this, if I do this, if I if I party like this, these things are gonna bring me joy. And so the darkness of that and that spiritual realm becomes fascinating. Again, it's their control, right? Right? So if you're uh good into becoming a witch or something like that, you get to do spells, you can do incantations, you can do these things. It's like, oh, look what I did. You didn't do any of that. You just summoned some stuff that came in. But you also think that you can control that realm. And you can't. But but I think that that's become the fascination of people is that's a realm I can control. I can't control God. Right. But I can control, but they but they can't control, but they think they can control, if that makes sense.

SPEAKER_02 6:16

Yeah. Pastor Les and I were literally having this conversation yesterday about how um how we think that our gifts are from God, right? And sometimes I mean gifts, our gifts are from God, right? And I'm talking about like prophecy speaking in tongues and things like that, right? But what believers don't understand is that the enemy also, right, replicates them. Yes. So for someone to say, like, oh, I'm a prophet, it's like there's uh psychics and there's mediums and there, right? Yes, and so there is a such thing as a dark side. And so there's a a fine line of like, how do I know, right? That's why the Bible says test the spirits.

SPEAKER_04 6:58

Yes, right?

SPEAKER_02 6:59

I'm not gonna receive everything that you're saying, I'm gonna test it, right? And so I we were we all that also brings me back to like Moses, right? When Moses turned the staff into a serpent, what did the magicians do that were there? They did the same thing. They're like, oh well, I can do it too. And I think that where the church is lacking is that, I guess, belief that we have the power and the authority to do these things, right? Because um, people who serve Satan or they are witches or whatever. I've literally heard testimonies of people that have outer body experiences and they they can literally see their body like laying down and they like go around their area looking for people to do things to.

SPEAKER_01 7:44

Oh, absolutely. There was a um, I'll never forget this um woman, she was a witch, she was an ex-witch, and um she said one night that they asked her project it and they would go into people's homes. And I don't think there's I think it's just from what they said, it was just random. Like they go into people's homes and she went into the home uh and she was in the bedroom of a little boy, and she went to cast something onto him and it wouldn't work. And she tried it again, and she tried it again, and it wasn't working, and she was got so angry because it wasn't working. Well, there was something red flowing around his bed. So she went back and she was talking to another witch and she said, Uh, this happened that when I went to this room, there was something, and the woman looked at her and said, Oh, that's the blood of Jesus. You can't cross that. We have we have no power against it.

SPEAKER_05 8:27

That's good.

SPEAKER_01 8:27

And so then you think, Oh my gosh, this whole covering your home in the blood of Jesus, covering your children in the blood of Jesus, these aren't just words.

SPEAKER_00 8:34

Right.

SPEAKER_01 8:35

In the spiritual realm, you are literally putting uh, you know, a a mind uh a a um what do they call those wired like fields like uh invisible fields? Yeah, like if yeah, that you can't get through it. And so I think that it's weird to me, and actually my husband and I were talking about this, is that people will so heavy heavily believe in the dark world, but then dismiss what God can do. Right. And that was you know the theme of the the music that I found for Sheena Taylor, if you have not heard her, she's amazing. Um, but that she comes at it as as warfare. Like like we are warriors and we gotta stop taking this backseat to think that we aren't powerful with his name. Right. Because the dark world, boy, they they you know go out and tell everybody how powerful they are. Yes. And they show it every day in the things that they're doing, that we as Christians have to start seeing that our power is way far greater than anything else.

SPEAKER_02 9:31

Right. Because they even bring people back to life.

SPEAKER_01 9:34

Yes, but the church has taught us that to be meek.

SPEAKER_02 9:37

Right.

SPEAKER_01 9:37

And that's that saddens me.

SPEAKER_02 9:40

Yes. Oh my gosh. It's again, it's taught from generation to generation, right? Like there's so many things that I've had to unlearn. Yes. Right. And so when when the and that's why like Romans uh 12, 2 is big here at Inspire Church, right? Because it is rewiring the mind. Like you have to rewire your mind because the way that you grow up or the way that you're taught, that sticks with you.

SPEAKER_01 10:05

Oh yes.

SPEAKER_02 10:05

And so once it becomes a belief, like you can't tell me nothing. Like that's what I believe, and that's what I believe, and that's what I believe.

SPEAKER_03 10:12

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 10:13

You know, but I don't I I agree with you to where it's like, how can you have bad, but you can't have good?

SPEAKER_03 10:19

Right.

SPEAKER_02 10:19

How do you believe in in witches and warlocks and psychics and mediums and all of this thing, all of those things, but you don't believe in God.

SPEAKER_01 10:27

Right. Well, we even go to, you know, I remember when I first learned that the people who get the black and white yin and yang, that's awful. That's horrible. Because the yin and the yang means that you can't have good, you can't have good without bad, which then gives the authority for bad. That means that bad can do whatever it's wants, because without that you wouldn't be able to have good. And so it tricks people into believing that, well, I can do these things and it's okay. Because to be bad, that means you that I'm creating in some way good. No, but that was the that's the trick of Satan to make you feel like that's okay, right? That we have to have both. And so, no, the the void exists because Satan chose to go and and to separate himself from God. That you don't have to have Satan, and one day we won't have Satan, it will just be good. But the world is trying to trick you into that you have to have both.

SPEAKER_02 11:19

Right. What what made you get into? I know you read a lot, she loves reading, guys, right? But what made you get into quantum physics? Like what you know, what was your moment where you're like, this is interesting? Because as a believer, right, you all of these things are taboo. Like you you don't do that, right? That that's witchcraft, and you know, so it's it's fascinating.

SPEAKER_01 11:41

God, my journey has been just amazing. But um one, separation of church and state is is not real. Um, people think that you know you can't have God with science. That actually started um Leonardo da Vinci on these scientists that were studying, they were trying to study the human body, they were trying to understand disease and things like this. And um the church was the the Catholic Church was so powerful that anytime you question anything that they had set forth as God's law, you were thought of as somebody who was going against God. And so any person, physician, anybody who tried to look at it in any different way, you were basically told that you were a heathen, you were going to hell. And, you know, so what scientists actually did was they went to the church and said, you know, there are medical things with our bodies that we are trying to understand. We want to separate that God is God, but let science come over here and do its thing. So it wasn't God that said they're separate, man separated them so that they could study. And people need to know that. So science is God, they're one. So um my baby brother committed suicide. And um, after when I lost him, I had up until then I had already lost a lot of people. My father died when I was three, grandmother died when I was three. Um, going, going and stuff first starting teaching, I had kids commit suicide. Um, my in one year I lost um six people.

SPEAKER_04 13:08

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 13:09

And so when my brother passed away, that's when I really was like, okay, God, I don't understand. You this this concept of you'll never give us more than we can handle. One, God never said that. Man said that. Right, right. Um, but that um life is gonna knock you down, but God is there to pick you up. But it was okay, Lord, but I need to understand, like, I I I've been raised in church to believe this, and that if you pray and you do these things, that you know, the path not that it's gonna be easy, but you're gonna keep moving forward, but I keep seeing all of this other stuff that comes in and I don't understand. And so I actually kind of happened into a video on quantum physics, and I had I was learning about Dr. Emoto, who was praying over water and speaking over water, and he was showing that um he would take pictures of it, the water under the dark field microscope, and then he would freeze the water. I'm sorry, I'm making he would take water, freeze it, take pictures of it under a dark field microscope, then he would unthaw the water, and people would pray over the water, speak over the water, and then he would refreeze it, and the water molecules would turn into snowflake crystals. And they found that words like love consistently have the same shape of crystal, joy. Whenever you spoke positively over the water, it had beautiful. If you spoke negatively, it became shattered with holes. When they put words like I hate you, it would shatter the the when it they would freeze it, the water molecules were shattered. Then I found, so then my second one was I found there's a um Roger Nelson, he did something you can look it up, it's called Glow, it was called Global Consciousness. And he had been practicing working on it for 20 years when he wanted to know as a world, are we kind of tied into each other? And so he created these egg-like structures and he put them on every continent in the world. And he would monitor them. He just wanted to see does consciousness connect? Are we connected? Does it change? And he had scientists that would check them, and every day nothing really changed. One morning, um, he woke up to his egg. So think of uh like a Richter scale for like a um you're having a um earthquake. Earthquake, so you're like, it's moving. Well, this thing is moving. So he flips on the news, nothing's on the news. He's like, what is happening? What I don't understand. The energy of the world is changing, but we don't know why. He's calling all the scientists, they're all getting the exact same result. And no nothing's being reported. An hour, I think 20 minutes later, was when the first plane hit the World Trade Center. The entire global consciousness was aware of it before it even happened. Wow. And so he started showing, and now again, a lot of scientists are like, oh, this is ridiculous, but the man had been working on this, I think he did 27 years, that we are connected. So then that wasn't fascinating to me. So then when the quantum physics thing came in, I was like, oh my goodness. So I wanted to know what else is there? Why is it that we are so heavily like prayer, yes, prayer works, but what is the other piece? And that's when I think it really started showing me the connection of our prayers, our words that we speak, the portals that we open in the negativity that we speak, that when someone is in a depression, your words are still opening things, you're still drawing things into your life. Um, my brother was drinking when he died, and I also worked with people in the field with alcoholism, and what I found was that people um that drink liquor, it's almost as though it cuts off the voice of God. And then you find out that in Europe they call it spirits because of that, you know? And so quantum physics was literally uh for me was looking for answers, and so I would go into the science and then I started l remembering the Bible and growing up with Bible verses, and then it started I started realizing, oh my gosh, like this is you know, karma is exactly what Jesus spoke. He just said it in different ways. Right. And that if you actually started looking at quantum physics and you start looking at the Bible, they were the same.

SPEAKER_04 17:18

Right.

SPEAKER_01 17:18

You know, and even the um Jericho, right? The the consciousness of these people walking around and God giving them something to do, and when they did it and they obeyed him, they created in in this realm, they created the belief that whatever God told them to do, it would be. Right. And it was. That's science, but that's all that but so belief in science was the same.

SPEAKER_02 17:45

That's good.

SPEAKER_01 17:47

Where do you think, or do you think, that we should be careful not to stretch science beyond what the word says um so once quantum physics started taking off, so I started learning about it for a while and everybody thought I was crazy, and then little by little it kind of started coming out and like more mainstream, and people started talking more about um you know, manifestation. Well, manifestation is quantum physics, and you know, at the most, again, there's if any quantum physicist person listened to this, they'd be like, oh no. Okay, again, on the surface, it is. And so my husband and I were talking about this too. Manifesting. People say speak things into existence. Okay, and that's real, it is real. But um the scary part about it is is when you start to talk and you just start to speak, you're almost casting a spell because it's from that's not from God, that's you. You are working from the flesh, and the flesh is not of God, right? And so I think the danger is people will speak things and then they happen, and then they're intrigued. So then it's ooh, where can I go with this next? And that's fine and dandy, and you're gonna keep going, but you're gonna get to a point where where you've worked yourself into a hole, you've worked into yourself into a bad, bad place, and speaking manifestations with God is different, right? Because you're praying and you're asking for his will and you're asking for his guidance and you're asking for discernment and you're following along with Lord, not my will, but yours. Holy Father, I know that you've promised me that I'm taking the word and his promises, and I'm saying, You promised to protect me in the storm. You promise. So I am right now decreeing and declaring that I am protected, but that is his words, not mine.

SPEAKER_04 19:29

Right.

SPEAKER_01 19:30

Right. And so that keeps me on the path. But you can go either direction, but you have to be very, very, very careful. Yes. Because, you know, you don't think Satan's waiting for you to speak something into your life that he knows two years from now is going to be crazy and could destroy you. Or that person that you manifested, right, that ends up being a a a sheep and a wolf in sheep's clothing, but you didn't know. And so I think that's where, you know, TikTok and the manifestation and that all of that world that took off once people started realizing that the world really does respond to us, Satan had to get his hand in there to make sure he deterred people from connecting it to God.

SPEAKER_02 20:10

Right. The Bible says life and death is in the power of the tongue. Double-edged sword. You know what I mean? Like proverbs, it's it's there. Um, but I hate the word manifestation. Like, and it's and what you say is true is like, well, if I can do it, no. Like you, and I literally this just happened to me yesterday. Um, someone asked me a question, what do you want to happen? And I said, God's will. That was literally my answer. Because I know what I want, but does is what I want what God wants for me. You know what I mean? And so biblically we know that we are the head and not the tail. Yes. Right? We are blessed and highly favored. Like there's there's decrees in the Bible that we know we are. But when it comes to the path that God wants you to take, that's a completely different, different thing. Yes. You know, and so it there's such a fine line between, and this is like I even go into uh prophecy, and I keep going back to that because that's that that's what it is, right? Yeah. So when people talk or tap into prophecy, there's a difference between having the gift of prophecy and being a prophet.

SPEAKER_03 21:20

Oh, for sure.

SPEAKER_02 21:20

That's two completely different things, right? A prophet is one of the fivefold ministries, and you are called. Yes. Like God is like, this is what you're this is what I want you to do. Um, the gift of prophecy is something that kind of comes and goes whenever it needs to. Yeah. Right? But I've seen so many people led astray by by prophets, right? And and sometimes people have good intentions, they don't know. They don't know that they're tapping into the wrong source.

SPEAKER_03 21:48

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 21:49

You know what I'm saying? So it's it's a very, very fine line.

SPEAKER_01 21:53

Because they're not asking for the discernment. Because I often think about um King Saul, King Solomon. King David, right? I mean, these people were so powerful, yet how many times did their flesh lead them in the wrong direction? And you look at, you know, Kings King Solomon to me is like you were given wisdom. So much wisdom, yet you took women who would bring in their own beliefs and their own manifestations, their own stuff, right? And how that was able to pull him away from God's purpose. I mean, that is so mind-blowing to me, right? Is that you had everything.

SPEAKER_05 22:31

Right.

SPEAKER_01 22:32

And yet your your flesh, because that's where that's where you went, you started slowly pulling away from God's will. And things still kept happening. You were still able to do things, but it was that slow, slippery, that slope that finally got to, right? And destroyed you, you know, and and destroyed so many things, and there were so many battles he would go through because of his own flesh. And so that's where I think 100% like this stuff is fascinating. But if if you're not in the right mind, it can 100% destroy you.

SPEAKER_02 23:07

Where do you think that for us believers, quantum physics would is beneficial? Like how can we use it to our advantage as a believer?

SPEAKER_01 23:15

I think um the okay, so there's an experiment. Okay, go on YouTube and look up Doc Dr. Quantum double slit experiment, because it to me it breaks it down super easy. It's so exciting. So knowing that this world is not what we think it is, right? Um, we think about where is heaven. We think about, you know, you know, the seven seven layers of heaven. Seven, you know, so it's like, okay, it's so hard for us to imagine that because we live in this solid world. When you get into quantum physics, what's fascinating is this isn't solid. This world only exists because we believe it to exist. So let me explain it this way. So, in this experiment that was done, I believe, in 1948, um, physicists were taking electrons and they were firing through this slit. And um that they had two slits and they were firing the electrons through. And so imagine, I always have to say that imagine there's a board in front of this wall, and it has two slits in it, and we're throwing stuff at it. We're throwing like when you were a kid and you would get toilet paper wet and they'd throw it up on the ceiling in the bathroom. Okay, imagine you're doing that and you're throwing it. Well, some are gonna get through, some aren't. Well, then you pull the board away, whatever got through lands on that wall. Well, it's gonna be in a line, it's gonna be in two lines because that's what the slits were, right? So that's what they're doing. I don't remember why they were doing it, but well, they would leave, and when they would come, they would let the machine keep firing. But when they would come back, there would no longer be two lines, there were eight. Well, how do you get eight lines out of two? So they would do it again, same exact thing. Every time they left the room, they would get eight lines. And so they brought in the quantum physicists and said, We don't understand. So the quantum physicists took photons, which is the smallest unit of light, and they were firing at the at the slits. Same exact thing. They would leave the room, there were eight. They put up a thing to measure, to pay attention. So it's like think of like a camera type thing. They left the room. They were like, maybe the the balls are interfering with each other or something, and that's what's causing them. Well, they they put this thing in there, and this time they're only firing one. They want to see what's gonna happen. What they found was before when everybody left the room, this unit no longer was a unit, it became a wave.

SPEAKER_05 25:29

Interesting.

SPEAKER_01 25:30

So when it was going through the slits, it was causing an interference pattern which caused the eight lines because it wasn't a solid. It only became a solid when it knew it was being observed. They proved that consciousness knows that we're watching. Consciousness responds based on what we believe to be true. So when you start to look at that, that means miracles. When I say, when God said believe that whatever you ask for, it is done. That is quantum physics. Because when I can picture you whole, that whatever God has promised me is already done, I literally change consciousness. I change it.

SPEAKER_05 26:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:14

And so that to me is mind-blowing. So when I get into my head, you know, and Joyce Myers, you know, said the battlefield of the mind, 100%, right?

SPEAKER_06 26:24

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 26:25

When I get into my head, remember, thoughts don't just stay in your head because thoughts are energy. Energy doesn't stay inside your head. And so my thoughts are influencing my world.

SPEAKER_04 26:35

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 26:36

My thoughts, my beliefs, whether I speak them or not, is so if I'm sp if I'm sitting here and I'm just in a negative place, ultimately it's gonna come out of my mouth. So guard the mind. Right. Right? God tells us to guard your mind. And so quantum physics for me is a constant reminder that everything that we do is not harmless. It's not just a, oh well, it's my day off. Oh well, I'm gonna do this, oh well, I'm not gonna do that. Following through, reading your Bible, getting in his word. His word, God's word is the sword, right? And so learning that the words are powerful, but you have to speak them every day.

SPEAKER_05 27:15

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 27:15

You have to be in with him every day because one, Satan's always gonna be trying to pull you in the other direction, but that your words are very, very powerful. And so when I started studying quantum physics, that made me realize just not that the Bible wasn't true, but when you start to see the science back it up and you're like, wow, like they've proven it.

SPEAKER_02 27:35

Right.

SPEAKER_01 27:35

That the that this is alive.

SPEAKER_02 27:37

Right. So in the world, right? They say, Oh, you have bad energy. Yes. Right? And so, but then that's acceptable. Right. But when you bring God into it, it's not, you know. God and science are together.

SPEAKER_01 27:52

People don't want to recognize God because that means I have to be held accountable for what I do and say.

SPEAKER_04 27:57

That's good.

SPEAKER_01 27:58

And I don't want to be held accountable for what I do and say. I just want to be, and I hear people, I just want to be, I just want to be happy. Right. You know, well, that's work. You know what I mean? Yes, God brings you joy, but it also means that you have to rewire, like you said, rewire the mind to start producing good.

SPEAKER_02 28:14

Yes. And that's also you think of believers, right? And I don't remember who it was that I was talking to, but we were talking about how sometimes non-believers, right, are more kind. Yes. And more compassionate and more forgiving than those in the church.

SPEAKER_03 28:30

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 28:30

Right?

SPEAKER_03 28:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 28:31

How do you claim to have God but you act the way that you do, right? And that's why the Bible says, by your by their fruit. Because it's not by your gifts. It don't matter how many tongues you speak, how many prophecies you give, right? And that's why he says in in Revelation, depart from me, I never knew you. And they're like, oh, I prophesied in your name. The Bible says, by your fruit. Yes. Right? And so it's it's it's so mind-blowing to me that the world taps into these things. Because there was, I don't remember where I heard it, but they said everything is a law.

SPEAKER_00 29:10

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 29:10

Right? Yes. So why are rich people rich? Because they're doing what they need to do, sowing and reaping. It's a law. Yes. Yes. You know, like a lot of millionaires and billionaires are very generous people.

SPEAKER_01 29:23

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 29:23

Right? So that's sowing and reaping. You reap what you sow.

SPEAKER_01 29:26

They also believe, I, you know, I always tell people, imagine you're born and raised in a home where you're extremely wealthy, right? Money is never a worry. Yes. Ever. You get what you get what you think about. Right. So if I'm always worried that I'm not going to have enough, I'm creating a field around me of not having enough. So that's why when God says, when you give, right, I'm putting it in your hands, and I believe and I trust that God's going to bring back that is that is creating my world around me, right? So he continues again, he follows the law, right? He can change, he God can do whatever he wants, but he follows the law that he promised us, right? So a wealthy person doesn't worry about money. Right. And because they don't worry about it, they never push money away. I always tell people, if you were born and raised in a home where, and again, read your Bible because people quote things so awful all the time, where people say money is the root of all evil. No, it is not. God did not say that. He said the love of money is the root of all evil. So I said if you're raised in a home and you're taught that money is bad, and all you ever hear is it's easier for a camel to get through the eye of a needle than a rich man to get into heaven, you have now have the foundation that wealth is bad. Money is bad. So don't play the lottery. Never gonna win. Because you're not gonna win, because your deep belief is if I get money, I'm gonna lose my soul.

SPEAKER_02 30:51

Right.

SPEAKER_01 30:52

It ain't coming. So so what we believe to be true goes out in front of us. So if I have a deep-seater belief about something, it's going out there whether I'm putting it out there because that's my belief.

SPEAKER_04 31:04

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 31:04

Right? And so money is neutral, money can do amazing things. Money is going to fund the billion soul harvest of the world. Right. Okay, billion soul harvest. Because money is necessary in the world that we have. Jesus even said, you know, give Caesar what is his. His face is on that coin, it is his. Money runs the world, but we can use money for God's purposes, right? Absolutely. And so believing something and trusting in something, people have gotten into that realm, right? Which is, like you said, wealthy people are often very generous and very kind. They don't set their mind on that. And they do understand that they they also reap and get. You don't have to be a Christian to believe that, right? Right? And so they believe very highly in the whole karma thing.

SPEAKER_04 31:50

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 31:51

Whatever I put out, I'm going to get back.

SPEAKER_04 31:53

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 31:53

So they do. And then, you know, people, you hear people go, why aren't they going to heaven? Again, that gets back to salvation. This is a fallen world, and there has to be there had to be a sacrifice. So the only sacrifice is Jesus. And that is that his blood is the only sacrifice that will now let you step into heaven. Right. Right. And so, but they don't understand that. Because they also don't understand the sacrifice. They don't, which is also mind-blowing to me because my husband and I, so a little off topic topic, but um, I was given a book called Set the Captives Free to Read. This is not just a book that anybody runs out and just gets. A friend of ours gave it to us, and she said, God told me to read this. She said, I'm gonna tell you right now, it's a very heavy book. And so it is about witchcraft, it is about um the the cult, it it it's insane. And um, so I brought it home and I didn't, I put it aside and I was like, Lord, I know I need to pray about this, I can't just read this book. And um, so I've been praying, Lord, uh, do you want me to read this book? So my husband and he's in the bedroom and he's folding clothes and putting things away, and I'm in the office and and he has podcasts on his pastor. And to make a long story short, this pastor um was given this book, set the captives free, and he was told to read it. And he didn't. It was by a spiritual person who was a father, his father, who was a pastor's friend, who would cast out demons in other countries, and he sent him this book after his his father passed and said, You need to read this book. Well, he didn't read it. He's like he's I knew it was gonna be really heavy, I didn't read it. Three years later, he called him and said, You didn't read the book. God told me you didn't read the book. And he said, You're about to come face to face with Satan, and you didn't read the book.

SPEAKER_05 33:31

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 33:32

So I walked in and I'll, you know, find that that that on your own was powerful. But um, I walked in and I said, Where did you get this podcast? And he's like, Why? And we went back and forth and I said, Because it's really important that I know why you have this podcast. And then he was like, Well, you know, Sam would told me, I'm like, okay, because and I walked back in and I held up the book, and I was like, This is the book he's talking about. So we started reading the book.

SPEAKER_02 33:54

That's where it's like God will use whatever to be like, hello.

SPEAKER_01 33:59

But that book is about the power um of witches. And one of the things that that really kind of got me angry, righteously angry, was the witch that said the demons, you know, witches, demons are attacking me, you can't see them to the pastor. And he said, No. She said, You Christians are so weak because witches can see the demonic world around us, the spiritual world. They can see all of it. They see they see the good and the bad.

SPEAKER_02 34:27

Right.

SPEAKER_01 34:28

But we don't see it. Right because we have been taught not to. We've been taught that's not a world for you, don't pay attention to it. Well, quantum physics brings that back in. Yeah, right. That that world exists. There is a realm at all times around us. Yes. And that's the beauty of it. So I think for people who maybe struggle, maybe quantum physics would be able to open up that world to them to say, wow, okay, Lord, you know, you are in that. You are in all of that, right? Because bad guys know it.

SPEAKER_02 34:57

Yeah. And you think of of things as so far, right? Like all of these things are far. The enemy is far, the principalities are far. Believers are scared. Yes. Like, let's be real. Yeah. Right? They'd be like, Oh, I don't want, I'll see angels all day, Lord, but don't let me see no demon. Bro, I've had so many encounters. And I'm like, I much rather not see them. Yes, right. But like I remember when I was 15, my first ever, like, I had a dream. And in this dream, I'm in the car, I was sitting in the backseat, and I'm just looking. And God allowed me to see a demon on top of every single house. Some houses had them and some didn't.

SPEAKER_04 35:39

Wow.

SPEAKER_02 35:39

And it was, I woke up and I was like mind-blown, right? And so people who do um witchcraft and and all of these things, and again, some people do it and they don't know that that they're doing it, right? Um, but people who do it and they consciously understand what they're doing, they they know the power that they possess. We as believers do not. Not that, and and not only do we not know, we don't believe that we have that power, right? And so there's uh uh a guy, his name is Andrew Womick, um, he's an older gentleman. God has used him to literally uh bring people back from the dead. His son died, I think he OD'd, and he he was like two hours away. Somebody called him, told him that his son died. He was in the fridge, like he's in the morgue, and he's and he didn't profess anything with his mouth. He was like, I'm on my way. He drove two hours, his son came back to life.

SPEAKER_01 36:35

Wow. So amazing.

SPEAKER_02 36:37

How you you know what I'm saying? That is something that defies all odds. Yes. That is what what doctors would call a miracle, right? Right? Like people call things miracles when there's no way that they can explain it scientifically, right? Like they they don't understand. And so I was I was listening to uh um a podcast where the lady was she was an ex-witch and she was talking about how she would astro project, and over every believer's house there was red. Yeah, she would see red. And it was like, like you said, like a like a bubble. Yeah, and so she already knew she couldn't even get into the house. Like she knew every house that had a believer, right? That that covered their house. Because you could be a believer and your house not covered, yeah. You know what I'm saying? So if you're a believer and you having demonic attacks all the time, there's something going like there's something wrong. Yes, right. Like you need to prepare yourself spiritually because that should not be the norm. Yep, right? Like, do attacks happen? Absolutely, right? Like, I had a dream of uh it was a while ago, but in my dream, I was in this like mansion and I'm coming down the steps, and all of a sudden, this huge demon, bigger than the house, like he was like the his head was like over the house like this pops up. I woke up and I'm like started, I'm like, right, my heart is racing at this point, and I'm like rebuking, right? And so I'm like, I don't know how you gain access into this place, but you're gonna go right down in the name of Jesus, right? And so those things happen, but it should not be the norm, right? And and as pastors, like Pastor Les and I not too long ago, I was praying to God and I said, I said, God, help me discern every single person that walks in that door. The moment they walk in, I want to know. Yeah, I want to know, are you here for something good? Yeah, or are you on an assignment?

SPEAKER_03 38:30

Yeah, I want to know.

SPEAKER_02 38:32

And I told God, I said, it's it's not for for for personal gain, right? But I have to watch my sheep.

SPEAKER_01 38:38

You have to know how how to battle. Yes, right?

SPEAKER_02 38:41

Yes, because anybody can walk in and lead someone astray.

SPEAKER_01 38:45

Yes. Anybody. And that that's that's where you know I got the the anger that like came up in me. I was like, we are warriors. Yes, we have to, we are warriors, people. We are not these meek little sheep that just wander around. And we we have to understand the authorities and and the reading of the books and understanding and knowing the word of the Lord, because it's the word of the Lord that you use through his promises to defeat the devil. And if you don't know them and you're not reading your Bible, what you're powerless. Yes, you can you can plead the blood of Jesus, but that's not gonna stop attacks momentarily, but you gotta know the word. Yeah, right. Exactly, because like you said, you can be a believer. Most believers don't know to cover their homes in the blood of Jesus. Yes. Um, my husband and I don't walk out the door without praying together for the armor of God and for putting the blood of Jesus on us as we travel throughout our days. We don't leave. Yes, and we and and the more we've learned and the more you get into understanding this there this world, this quantum world around us, um, you I I'm fearful to leave the house without covering myself. Yeah. Because I now I fully understand. And I, as Christians, I it's beautiful and it's amazing, and you learn about God, and it's so beautiful, and he's so loving, and and that part's awesome, and we all need that.

SPEAKER_04 40:06

Right.

SPEAKER_01 40:07

But then there's this other side where he's saying, Okay, but there's still bad as a parent, you have children and you love them and you do everything to protect them, but when they step outside that door, it's out of your hands, it's out of your hands. Anything can happen to them, and so it's like that's where I you know, I think God is like, okay, I I've given you my word so that when you're not in church, which is that nice cozy place where you feel so good, when you step outside those doors, here, take this with you because it's gonna protect you. Right. But most Christians just leave it at the door, right? Right? Mm-hmm. I went to church. Absolutely. I did my duty.

SPEAKER_02 40:42

Yes. Oh my gosh, we were talking about that last week. We were talking about that. How um how so many churches, mega churches, have sitting ministries, right? And a lot of it has to do with the fact that people don't care, right? They were called to do something, but they're okay with just being there. Yes. And it's like they just check it off their box, like it's Sunday, I went to church and that's it. And it's like God is calling everyone higher. Like, why do you have to wait for your pastor to tell you to do something, right? If God is pulling you in a direction, go in that direction. Like ministry doesn't all always look like being a pastor or being an evangelist, or right, like we are called to all spread the good news. Yes, right? That is ministry, regardless of how you do it, right? Opening up an orphanage or opening up a woman shelter, or all you have to do is include God in everything that you do.

SPEAKER_01 41:37

And it's so interesting they say that because there was a man, I can't remember his name, but he died, and um, he ended up coming back, and this man was, you know, a pillar of the community. He had adopted, I can't remember, I think it was like 17 children. Wow. Yeah, like him and his wife had done all of these great things. He went to hell. And he was shocked, and God told him, You didn't do any of this for me. But, you know, he had gotten so used to the praise and the wow, and and not the again, good person, like he genuinely wanted to help these kids. He didn't just do it and take them in and not, but God wasn't in the details. And so I think that too is so important is the discernment of am I doing this for my own ego? Am I doing this for my own pride? Or am I truly doing this because I truly want that person to feel God's hand? And again, discernment, because Satan, you know, I Pastor Les said it, you know, he he's been around a long time and he knows. And you know, and there's monitoring spirits. My my husband made this comment, and he he said, you know, people who are always checking up on other people. That's a monitoring spirit. Yes. Well, when you do that, monitors are succumbed to to watch you, right? And so again, everything that you do in the spiritual realm comes back to you into your life, and so being careful, um, and and not speaking, there was a pastor I was watching the other day, and he was talking about um that hate, you know, so many people hate our president. You're a Christian, you are supposed to hate, right, right? Um, you're not supposed to wish him dead. Right yet a lot of people do. That is a that is a mnemonic spirit. That's witchcraft. Yes, you're operating witchcraft. If you're a Christian and you hate your president, you better check yourself. Right. Because that is a spirit coming back into your life that is demonic. And so you don't have to agree with people.

SPEAKER_06 43:27

Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 43:27

But hate, wishing them dead, oh, you're just you're taking that to a whole nother level. And again, it's become so normalized.

SPEAKER_04 43:35

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 43:36

It has become so normalized to just spew to whatever you're feeling at that moment, and that you have the right to feel that.

SPEAKER_05 43:44

Right.

SPEAKER_01 43:44

And that's a big thing today is you have the right to feel you do have the right to feel that, but just know that whatever you put out there is still coming back into your life.

SPEAKER_04 43:51

Right.

SPEAKER_01 43:51

It is a boomerang. Imagine that everything coming out of your mouth is a boomerang coming right back in. So maybe not the exact situation. Right. But the exact same demon that that activity that is coming back.

SPEAKER_02 44:04

Yes. The spiritual world, like you said, there's different types of spirits.

SPEAKER_01 44:08

Right.

SPEAKER_02 44:09

And so, like you said, I I laugh because they'd be like, the devil's attacking me. And it's like, you think the devil the devil is one. Yes, yes. He is not omnipresent. Nope. He cannot be everywhere at one time. You really think that he attacked, he went out of his way to come to you. Right. Because you're such a threat. I mean, there are people that are a threat to him, right? But like some of the people, I'd be like, you ain't a threat to the devil. Like that was a whole, that was a demonic experience. It wasn't a devil thing, right? And so we don't even know that. We don't know that there's monitoring experience. We don't know that there's principality. Right? What is a principality? A principality is a high-level demon that is attached to a certain region.

SPEAKER_01 44:52

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 44:52

Right? So we live in Ohio. When I go to Jersey, I'm like, I'm ready. Let's go. Like one week is enough for me. You feel it. There's no way that you are a believer, that you are in tune with the spirit, that you have that discernment, and you don't walk into a place and immediately feel the shift.

SPEAKER_00 45:11

Yes. And if you don't, you need to check yourself.

SPEAKER_02 45:14

When Pastor Les and I were buying our house, so we moved here. We're we live in Ohio now when we were moving from Jersey. Um, we went house shopping, right? And so I will never forget this house because to this day we talk about it. We walked into one of the houses, it was in Elyria, very nice house. You know, we're we're going through, and the moment I walked in the door, I felt it. It was like it was like, you know, when you throw a cold thing of water on you that you're like, you're just like, uh, well, I'm trying to find the word in English. Like um, you like freeze, like paralyzed. As soon as I walked in. I turned to him and I was like, Do you feel that? And he was like, Yeah. Okay, cool. We keep walking, we're doing the tour of the house. We go upstairs. I didn't even make it into the bedroom. I was like, we gotta go. We gotta go. I ran out of that house so quick. Yes, so quick. The spirit of witchcraft was all over that place. And so these are things that we need to know how to uh listen to.

SPEAKER_03 46:20

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 46:21

Because let's just say I wasn't in tune with the spirit and I purchased this house. Now I'm but I'm fighting somebody else's battle because there was already something existent there. There was an open door, an open portal in that home. And now I'm fighting that, a battle that shouldn't even have been mine to begin with.

SPEAKER_01 46:38

And all of you thrifters out there, oh my gosh. Things can be attached to the things that you buy. Yes, and you have to learn to bless them and anoint them and to remove anything that's on them. Again, the ignorance in Christianity is mind-blowing. Yes. And I'm not calling anybody out because I too am ignorant in so many ways. And learning the science, learning all of those things, you're it is, and the deeper you get into it, and and this this book that we're reading is just wow, you know, and I pe I know I think sometimes as Christians, people are like, oh, it's not that big a deal. Yeah, and that that part. Music, you know, re people are coming out now and saying that, you know, they cast spells on music before it's released, that there are rituals that are done before albums are put out. Um, and you know, we forever everybody's like, oh, that's crazy, or you know, like Ozzy Osborne, oh, he was, you know, demonic or whatever, or he did you know crazy things, but nobody ever wanted to attribute that, right, to to this unseen. It was just, oh, it's creepy, it's da-da, and they just kind of stop there. Well, that's gonna be in the music that you're listening to.

SPEAKER_02 47:47

Right. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 47:48

Um, Satan was the angel of music, and so even with what you're speaking, right?

SPEAKER_02 47:54

So, for example, um, because my my older boys, Eli's about to be 20, and then Isaiah's 18. And so he's like, Where in the Bible doesn't say that I can't listen to this? And I'm like, it doesn't, right? But I said, you have to learn to really discern what you're listening to, especially the lyrics, right? And so he was on a kick of like listening to Bachata, which is a Spanish style, and but a lot of those songs are love songs, and but they're about like cheating. Like my girl cheated on me, and and he's singing his little heart out. And I was like, Eli, when you get married, if your wife cheated on you, it was because you was singing that song.

SPEAKER_01 48:31

You spoke it.

SPEAKER_02 48:32

You know what I'm saying? I was like, you better cancel that right now, boy. Yes, they don't take these things seriously, and and what you're saying about how demons housing things, they do. Yes. When my sister was, I was probably about 15 or 16, my sister was like 13. Um, someone gifted her like a troll. Like a little, you know, back in the day that was like huge. We used to collect them, right? Like the little plastic trolls. So at that time I was serving God, and so was my mom. My sister kind of was, you know, she went because she was forced, not really because she wanted to. So all of a sudden, every night we started hearing footsteps.

unknown 49:13

Wow.

SPEAKER_02 49:14

My mom looked the God revealed to my mom's husband, I had moved out. God revealed to my mom's husband at the time that there was a literal troll demon that was housed in that in that troll, like the the little figurine that she had. So because of that, that now that created a spiritual warfare for my mom and her husband. Yes. So y'all think that this is a joke? It's not. It's really not.

SPEAKER_01 49:40

Well, I mean, you go back into the Bible and and you know, people carried, you know, Rachel carried a little pagan little idol with her, she took with her. They're little dolls. They were like little dolls, right? Um, voodoo dolls. Yes. I mean, you don't think that somebody that doesn't like you can't put something, a spell on something, and then give it to you.

SPEAKER_05 49:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 49:59

And this and then in the book um and set the captives free, she is a very high-level witch, and she teaches Bible study with kids.

SPEAKER_04 50:08

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_01 50:09

And and she in the book explained how they're they l often live very double lives. And so, and they're often pillars in the community. Many of them live in beautiful homes, mansions. They are the pillars of the community. Everybody loves them, and doctors, nurses, like all this stuff. And we have been conditioned to believe, due to television, Hollywood, the way that they portray everything, that you know, these people are beautiful and they have money and they're and in our mind that, oh, they they must be doing everything right because look what they have. And it's all of it is deception. Again, not saying that all these people are bad, not saying that all these people do this, but there is this section of people, but they know how to hide it. And in our world today, because of deception and because of music, because of television, we have been lulled to sleep.

SPEAKER_04 50:57

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 50:58

To no longer feel discern whatever, unless you were in God's word, you're not going to feel it because it's normal. It is normalized everywhere. Um, you know, like you were saying when we were kids, uh, PG-13 was really PG-13. Right. Today, PG-13 can take you to a whole nother level that would have been rated X, you know, 25 years ago. Absolutely. Um and but now it's desensitized, it's normal. Nobody thinks anything. Cussing in sh a regular regular shows on regular TV, nobody cares. But again, just Satan's has introduced things little by little by little by little into our world to lull people to sleep to no longer feel or see it. And so it is powerful.

SPEAKER_02 51:41

People don't know that cursing, right? Cussing, however you say it, is you're actually cursing spells. Yeah. You're putting spells on people. Yes. So that's witchcraft. Yes. So when people be like, oh, it's not bad to curse, you're performing witchcraft. Yes. Yes, it is.

SPEAKER_01 51:56

Um when you listen to like when you look t television is channels, like television, one, they have channels. What is what do we call them? Programming. Every your radio channels, right? I mean, you're you're getting a signal. It is weird when when you start to go into the science-y realm of it, you're like, oh my gosh, like that our words, and in the English language, we have so many words. I there is this woman, and she kind of spelled it out, I can't remember her name, but she said, look at even the days of our week in English. What is a weekend? Your weekend at the end of the week. So you're already setting your body up to not feel strong, right? Morning. You're in the morning, you're mourning, right? So it should be the opposite. You should be energized, you should be so excited. The words that we speak, again, the words have power. Right. And so we're speaking these words into our life. Um, and my husband was pointing out when people say um thank you, you're not supposed to say welcome. Because welcome is actually pull allowing something, you're opening yourself up and drawing to you. You should never have you should never have a mat or something in front of your home that says welcome because you were automatically allowing anything and everything to pass through that door.

SPEAKER_02 53:12

I wonder if that's why Chick-fil-A says my pleasure.

SPEAKER_01 53:15

Probably.

SPEAKER_02 53:16

That's interesting.

SPEAKER_01 53:16

Yeah, right, being a Christian-based company. That's interesting. But the English language I said is the worst as far as the words that we have are so many double meanings.

SPEAKER_02 53:25

Yeah. Wow. Okay. So um our time is running out. So how would someone who doesn't believe or has a hard time believing or doesn't know how to tap into the unseen realm? Right, how would one do that to where they can um gain access or knowledge or whatever from a believer standpoint? Yes.

SPEAKER_01 53:52

So um there really is. So again, Dr. Quantum, it's a cartoon, um, it's very well done, um, explains the double slit experience, explains in it just a beautiful way. Um, go in and look for, I mean, you can even today, I mean, even Googling just um quantum physics and and God in the Bible, right? And you're gonna find parallels all the way through it. Um, Googling that and going through that. Um looking for there's a um there's a thing called the MIDI sprout, and actually they now are popping up on YouTube. I discovered like 10 years ago, and it's where they are able to so that you know the Bible it talks about how even the the grass, the the plants will cry out. Yes, that they now have it where the um the energy that comes off, the frequencies that come off, you can hook these things to the plants and you can actually hear the sound that every plant, every flower makes a different musical sound.

SPEAKER_05 54:41

That's so funny.

SPEAKER_01 54:42

And so get into that kind of stuff. That's fun and it's exciting. Like, what you can buy them, they're like a hundred books, and you can buy them and hook them to your plants and play it through your phone.

SPEAKER_06 54:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 54:51

And so get excited about the science world and looking at you know the the beauty of nature and the thing, and then go in the Bible and cross-reference. Yes, right? Because I remember my mom when I was a kid, she would say, even the pots and pans will cry out. I'm like, okay, mom, you're going for it. And what she was saying was that everything will bow down to God, right?

SPEAKER_02 55:11

But everything does have energy.

SPEAKER_01 55:12

Yes, everything has energy, and energy never dies, yeah, right? It just transforms. Yeah. And so, um, and that and that's something we even didn't get to now, was it was that everybody we vibrate. The happier you are, the more positive you are, the higher your vibration. That goes down.

SPEAKER_02 55:27

Is that why people are drawn to happy people?

SPEAKER_01 55:29

Yes. And so negative people, it goes in. So you think about isolation, right? And it goes down. So our our energy has a universal law of energy, is like energy has to match like energy. That's kind of why whatever you put out, you get back. Well, when you walk into a room and you have somebody and you're really happy, and you walk in and they're really angry, and then a little before you know it, you're kind of like, and now you just want to go home, and it's people go, they sucked out your energy. No, your vibration lowered to match their vibration because vibrations have to match, right? And so when you go home and you're all excited and you're gonna come home and you've got all this energy, I'm gonna clean out the closets tonight, blah, blah, blah. And then you're like, but you know, I'm gonna sit down and just watch one little show.

SPEAKER_04 56:12

That's the worst thing.

SPEAKER_01 56:13

The vibration of television is at a 150. Our natural vibration for us is about three, 300 to 350. Your vibration will lower to match that of the television.

SPEAKER_02 56:24

That's wild.

SPEAKER_01 56:26

And so you being around, choosing who you spend your time with, that's one of the reasons why it's so important, is because your vibration will lower to match theirs. So, and I'm gonna leave you with this because this was so amazing when I when I heard this. God said, You cannot see my face and live. Right? So this is just a sack, this body is just a sack that holds our spirit. When you stand in the presence of God, the vibration would be so high that you would no longer be able to be in this body.

SPEAKER_02 56:55

So you would like explode.

SPEAKER_01 56:57

Your vibration would have to rise to meet his.

SPEAKER_02 56:59

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_01 57:02

Isn't that true? When you think about it, it makes sense, doesn't it? Yeah, and so yes, everything on earth is a vibration. Everything. So we measure it in frequency or vibration, but it's all the same. We just measure it different ways. But when you speak love and you speak kindness and you speak joy, it does, it goes out. And that's one of the reasons why when God talked about like spreading your joy and being the fruit, because the fruit will change the consciousness of the world. It changes. Last but not least, and I know I said last before that, there is a thing called the Schumann resonance. I discovered this too, and the Schumann resonance is um a man back in 1954, and he wanted to know the ionosphere of the world, so everything around us, is there a frequency to it? And so he started measuring it. And he found that it stated a constant, um, I think it was I think it's 7.86 is the hertz, and it stays there. And then he started monitoring, does it ever change? Does it change when things are happening? Nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing. In 2012, when the the Mayan calendar ended, what people didn't know was that every 26,000 years the earth shifts on its axis. When that happens, it changed, it changed our world, right? And it said that it actually changed the consciousness of the earth as well. From that day on, from December 21st of 2012, the the consciousness of consciousness of the earth vibration is rising. Okay. And what this man was saying was that there's gonna come a point in time that anybody who is negative, you are either going to adapt to this new or you will have to die because you won't be able to stay in a world with a high vibration. The the closer we get to the coming of God, the higher the vibration of the earth is becoming. And so they he said animals in anything that cannot. So if you're an angry, bitter person and you do not work that out, you will literally get to a point where you can no longer be in this presence. And so we now know the earth vibration, and some days it spikes and go it goes up and down. Um but when you think about um people turning to God, people who are getting saved will be able to be in this vibration, and people who don't, it no longer will. So quite literally heaven on earth.

SPEAKER_02 59:14

Right. I just thought of there was an experiment that they did on on plants, and they spoke to it. Same thing. Yes, when they spoke positive, the plant flourished, and when they spoke negative, the plant dies.

SPEAKER_01 59:27

So imagine what we do with each other every day. What no matter what how we talk to each other every day. But the way that you the way that you feel and the things that you put out, if you are negative, you gotta change it. It is okay to be sad, but it's important to say, okay, right now I'm feeling sad, but Lord, I know. I know that your promise is to prosper me and not to harm me. I know, Lord, that you've you've put me under your feathers, that you are protecting me, you've protected me, you're shielding me. Speak it, speak it, speak it until you believe it.

SPEAKER_05 59:55

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 59:56

And you can do that. You can rewire the brain and speaking and be creating the action.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:01

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:01

And so that's where the unseen comes in, is knowing that I have the power that God gave me.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:06

Right.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:07

Use his words.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:08

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:09

And they will use that to change your vibration. And the more you practice it, the higher your vibration goes. If you walk into a room and it feels off, it's because your vibration doesn't match those people.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:21

It's crazy because there's people that walk into the church and immediately I know, like y'all, y'all just had a bad day. It's 11 o'clock. How you day bad already.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:32

Right? And you and right, and the more sensitive you become to it, the more real it becomes. Yeah. And people don't understand that. And then it's like if you have somebody who is um has a really, really low energy, really their vibration is really low, right? And you are changing and you're getting really happy, instead of seeing it just from, oh, we're growing apart, people become more angry. When you're in their presence, it shifts this vibration in them and it does it, it's uncomfortable. And so a lot of times people will leave your presence because you make them uncomfortable. And they don't know why. And it's because your joy is rising and either they have to and they're making a decision to either rise with you or to leave. So people will leave your life the closer you get to God because they're not willing to rise.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:23

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:24

It's a choice though.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:25

That's crazy. We could go on. We could have been here for four hours if he let us, right? So fast. So is there any last words or key things that you want our viewers to leave with today?

SPEAKER_01 1:01:37

Be careful of your words. What you speak today becomes your tomorrow.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:41

That's good. So thank you guys for watching. If y'all want a part two, or you guys have any questions, drop them in the comments, and we will definitely um we could always do another one, right? Like me and Tom, we'd be talking.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:54

Yes. I could go on for hours, literally.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:58

So until next time, guys, God bless you. God bless.